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sorting out the mess into the 'Promo Cards' list :)

Postby jAsOnX73 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:34 pm

first of all
Lands

I have, for sure:

APAC Lands - http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-apac.html
Guru Lands - http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-euro.html
Euro Lands - http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-guru.html
Arena League Promos 1996 - http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-arena-1996.html

I suggest, to avoid confusion in the set, to name subsequently the cards in the list:

Forest [APAC] (1)
Forest [APAC] (2)
[...]
Island [Guru]
Swamp [Guru]
[...]
Island [Euro] (1)
Island [Euro] (2)
[...]
Forest [Arena 1996]
Island [Arena 1996]

and so on...

Consider that Euro Lands and APAC Lands comes in three different card arts for each land. Guru and Arena Promo are just a single art for each land.

I hope you find this suggestion useful.

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Since in the list we have 11 different card arts for each land (there's an error with the swamps, since just one is listed), using 3 for APAC, 3 for Euro, 1 for Guru and 1 for Arena 1996, that leaves us with 3 remaining lands. So i suggest lands in the Promo set should be named as follows:

Island [Guru]
Island [Arena 1996]
Island [APAC] (1)
Island [APAC] (2)
Island [APAC] (3)
Island [Euro] (1)
Island [Euro] (2)
Island [Euro] (3)
Island (1)
Island (2)
Island (3)

and so on with Forest, Swamp, Plains and Mountain

Keep in mind there are alot of 'promo' lands, so it's better to name them precisely to keep the list and the collection in order. :)
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Postby jAsOnX73 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:15 pm

following the same 'rule', disenchant and fireball in the promo cards should be named as follows:

Disenchant [Arena 1996]
Fireball [Arena 1996]

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I will add to this thread all the modifications I suggest to the Promo Card list with the goal to make it perfect :)
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Postby jAsOnX73 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:31 pm

there are alot of pre-release cards. This cards have a date printed on the front and they should be treated differently from 'promo cards'
I don't think they need a new category, but they should be labeled correctly in the 'Promo List' [you could also name the category 'Promo and Pre-Release' or 'Miscellaneous' :)]

anyway, here's a complete list of pre-release cards:
http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-prerelease.html

I think they should be named that way:
[just a couple]

Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms [Pre 29 Apr 1999]
Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms [Pre 4 Jul 1999]
Rukh Egg [Pre 26 Jul 2003]
Dirtcowl Wurm [Pre 4 Oct 1997]
Revenant [Pre 21 Feb 1998]

[...]

and so on... on the page above you will find name and dates of all the pre-released cards [I think the names are already in the Promo List and they should be just changed]

regarding the foreign language pre-released cards you have to choose, but since one is in cyrillic, one in hindi and so on, you could probabily use the english name:

Raging Kavu [Kavu Furens] [Pre 23 Sep 2000]
Questing Phelddagrif [Greek] [Pre 27 Jan 2001]

[...]

or, if you prefer, you could cut and paste the original name :)

Laquatus's Champion [Воин Лакватуса] [Pre 26 Jan 2002]
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Postby jAsOnX73 » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:39 am

the following are english version of HarperPrism Book Promos
http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-harperprism.html, and should be name as follows

Arena [HarperPrism EN]
Sewers of Estark [HarperPrism EN]
Windseeker Centaur [HarperPrism EN]
Giant Badger [HarperPrism EN]
Mana Crypt [HarperPrism EN]

I think the Harper Prims category and folder should be removed, since they are, effectively, promo cards. If you choose to keep the category Nalathni Dragon should be removed since it's not in the Harper Prism Promo list and Arena, Sewers of Estark, Windseeker Centaur, Giant Badger, Mana Crypt should be removed from the promo list, since now they are duplicated.

I'm not telling you to add Italian and French versions, since it's impossible to find the scans, but it's better to use 'EN' just in case the 'IT' or 'FR' version pops up :)
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Postby jAsOnX73 » Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:01 am

also, is it possibile to have incremental cards database updates?
it's a difficult task to double check things keeping in mind the suggestions I gave and browsing the various lists consequently.
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Postby gaddlord » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:04 am

Once again, jAsOnX73 has done a great research and has "prooved his valour". :wink:
Great work.

All the suggestions will be taken into consideration. My first look oppinion is that the suggestions are OK and can be implemented. I will do a further reasearch and make the changes for the next 0.5.5 version.

Thanks, jAsOnX73
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Postby jAsOnX73 » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:01 am

thanks gaddlord, I'm happy to help you perfectioning this great piece of software

I suggest, since the Promo List is a mess, to create, in the next version, a folder (and category) called "Promo and Pre-Release Cards" and another one called "Miscellaneous". In the first one you could insert verified and correctly named cards and in the "Miscellaneous" you can put the rest.

This way is easier to keep track of the situation :)
[needless to say that the generic "Forest (1), Island (1)..." I mentioned in the fist post of this thread should be listed in the "Miscellaneous" category :)]

keep up the great work, it's getting better and better :)
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any idea for a 0.5.5 release date, btw?
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Postby gaddlord » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:36 pm



Done. The cards from APAC. GURU, EURO and Arena 1996 are fixed or imported. I have also added
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xxx [Arena 2000].full.jpg
xxx [Arena 2001].full.jpg
xxx [Arena 2002].full.jpg
xxx [Arena 2003].full.jpg
xxx [Arena 2004].full.jpg


+++

I have fixed and imported the MPR edition (Magic Player Rewards). Cards look now this way
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Angel [2004].full.jpg
Bear [2001].full.jpg
Bear [2003].full.jpg
Beast [2001].full.jpg
Beast [2004].full.jpg
Bird [2001].full.jpg
Demon [2003].full.jpg
Dragon [2002].full.jpg
Elephant [2001].full.jpg
Elephant [2002].full.jpg
Goblin [2003].full.jpg
Goblin Soldier [2001].full.jpg
Insect [2003].full.jpg
Myr [2004].full.jpg
Pentavite [2004].full.jpg
Rukh [2003].full.jpg
Saproling [2001].full.jpg
Sliver [2003].full.jpg
Soldier [2002].full.jpg
Spirit [2001].full.jpg
Spirit [2004].full.jpg
Squirrel [2002].full.jpg
Wurm [2002].full.jpg
Zombie [2002].full.jpg


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following the same 'rule', disenchant and fireball in the promo cards should be named as follows:

Disenchant [Arena 1996]
Fireball [Arena 1996]


Done. :wink:

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The Pre-Release cards are fixed and are available in Promo Cards edition. They are as folows:
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Avatar of Hope [Pre 27 May 00]
Beast of Burden [Pre 6 Feb 1999]
Dirtcowl Wurm [Pre 4 Oct 1997]
False Prophet [Pre 29 May 1999]
Feral Throwback [Pre 25 Jan 03]
Fungal Shambler [Pre 26 May 01]
Glory [Pre 18 May 02]
Helm of Kaldra [Pre 22 May 04]
Kavu Furens [Pre 23 Sept 00]
Laquatus's Champion [Pre 26 Jan 02]
Lightning Dragon [Pre 26 Sept 1998]
Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms [Pre 29 Apr 1999]
Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms [Pre 4 Jul 1999]
Monstrous Hound [Pre June 98]
Overtaker [Pre 25 Sep 99]
Questing Phelddagrif [Pre 27 Jan 01]
Rukh Egg [Pre 26 Jul 2003]
Ryusei, the Falling Star [Pre 18 Sept 2004]
Shield of Kaldra [Pre 24 Jan 04]
Silent Specter [Pre 28 Sept 02]
Soul Collector [Pre 17 May 03]
Stone-Tongue Basilisk [Pre 22 Sept 01]
Sword of Kaldra [Pre 20 Sept 03]


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I think the Harper Prims category and folder should be removed, since they are, effectively, promo cards.

I decided to keep them as a separate edition. If there is a great user need to merge Harper Prism with Promo Cards, I will do it.

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If you choose to keep the category Nalathni Dragon should be removed since it's not in the Harper Prism Promo list


Removed. :wink:

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Arena, Sewers of Estark, Windseeker Centaur, Giant Badger, Mana Crypt should be removed from the promo list, since now they are duplicated.

Removed :wink:

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I suggest, since the Promo List is a mess, to create, in the next version, a folder (and category) called "Promo and Pre-Release Cards" and another one called "Miscellaneous".


I am still thinking on that. Due to the program structure the "Miscalleneous" will be considered as a separate edition which is not exactly the case... (thinking)

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