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Postby Thingil » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:15 am

It's very helpful to update the prices with the function in MTG Studio. Thanks a lot.
But after i updated the new prices with the new function, the value of my collection raised from USD 9800 to 47000. I saw, that some cards of the 4th edition have now very high prices (e.g. 'Smoke, USD 118.37', 'sorceress Queen USD 142,47'). There are other Cards, that have increased with the price wrong. Maybe because they are reprints from Alpha/Beta Edition, where the price is so high.
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Postby TheAndrian » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:02 am

Yup can confirm the pricing problem as well - it appears my revised card prices have gone through the ceiling too.

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Postby docetes » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:52 pm

has this been resolved. I just go this error today
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Postby gaddlord » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:27 pm

I am currently working on this. I am completely rewriting the Pricing with the following changes:

1. Allow the manual update of Prices from File|Import screen
Currently there is Import Collection options. A new Import Prices option will be added to wizard which allows you to select a store and bulk download prices. There will be a preview screen display of the prices and a progress bar of the import progress.
For the start the usual ABUGames, Magic Traders and Hastur Hobbies will be used. Later on I plan adding Black Border and WTC (which I already agreed on interface and affiliate tracking). Later I plan negotiating with CoolStuffInc and other online stored.

2. Changing the Price database structure to allow hundred times faster price insertion
There will be a new mtgstudio.prices separate database file with high speed of price insertion (around 200 cards prices per second on 3.9 GHz CPU). I plan using an open source standard database which other 3-rd party developer can have access to and be able to write additional tools if needed.

3. Working on a new Assign Price screen which will show you all possible prices from different stores to pick from.
Currently you can only type digits in the Buy At, Sell At, Price columns. I will add a small "..." button next to the price which will open a modal window called "Assign Price".
This window will list prices from various stores for Foils, Graded, reprints in other editions, different quality card (NM, MINT, etc.), Autographed, and other. It will suggest a price which mostly matches your card Foil-ness, Set and Quality. But you will be able to select another price from the list of suggested ones.

4. Work on Options dialog allowing you to select the way the default price is calculated.
- be able to pick favorite store
- be able to pick AVERAGE, MIN, MAX price
- be able to pick a weighted price depending on store availability
- be able to add a Modifier index to the prices. For example Store Price - 20%.

5. Working on 2 new card prices providers BlackBorder and The Wizards Cupboard.

6. Trying to negotiate with Toad & Troll for building a pricelist interface

7. Work on fetching prices on the fly via HTTP requests and update the bulk inserted prices
... and a couple of other minor changes.
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Postby docetes » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:29 am

cheers dude, I just bought the software a couple of days ago and apart from that error it's awesome
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Postby Schwanke » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:03 am

You know I have tears in my eyes from those changes? No joke lol. Thats friggin awesome. I just got a card thats 17$US on one site and 26 on another and inbetween on another so I'll be curious how it along with my other rares stack up under different options. Then I can get a feel for what my favorite options might be for a combination of value and sellability across an averge and then I can do stuff like add 1000 uncommons and know I am asking a fair price even for them.

WOOT!

THANKS! FOR REAl! :)
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Postby gaddlord » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:41 pm

As a status update.

I am done with point "2. Changing the Price database structure to allow hundred times faster price insertion"

Going on point "1. Allow the manual update of Prices from File|Import screen "
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Postby Thingil » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:03 pm

That's awesome Gad :wink:
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Re: Wrong prices

Postby gaddlord » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:16 am

Thingil wrote:It's very helpful to update the prices with the function in MTG Studio. Thanks a lot.


I have fixed in the 1.8.3 beta available at http://www.mtgstudio.com/download/beta/MTG_Studio_1.8.3.Beta.zip

Installation instructions:

1. close MTG Studio
2. Unzip the contents of the archive
3. Copy the 3 updated files over your existing 1.8.2 installation.
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Postby Schwanke » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:38 am

Sorry if this is a badgering point but its something thats been on my mind that I wanted to make sure got into the next release with all the cool pricing changes being that its a pricing change that I feel is important.

Will the new system be setup so that it distinguishes between foil and non foil cards when pricing?

Right now it just does the normal card even when the foil is selected. I think I posted on this before but wanted to make sure it got covered just in case it was easy to do now and hard to do later.

Without it you have to manually change the prices for cards and since you cant edit the price column you have to put it in the sell at column then if you want to total the value of your cards you have to copy all the price items to the sell column.

Now granted if the new system lets you either pick a price or enter your own price then maybe the trick is to have one of those default rules be to auto suggest the foil price for cards with the foil marker?

Thanks!

Cant wait for whatever beta comes next :D :D :D
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Postby gaddlord » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:42 am

Schwanke wrote:Will the new system be setup so that it distinguishes between foil and non foil cards when pricing?

Yes it will suggest the closes price judging from the card condition (NM, Mint, Autographed, Graded) and Foil as well.
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Postby Thingil » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:51 pm

Great, after update the collection prices seems correct (excluding foils).

Some remarks:

- MTG Studio Help is not working
- Pre- or Release Cards have no prices (all cards from the PR Edition)
- Cards from Alternative Arts (AA) have no prices

Can send you my Collection file if you like it for test. Have nearly 5000 cards in it.
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Postby gaddlord » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:40 pm

Thingil wrote:Great, after update the collection prices seems correct (excluding foils).

Some remarks:

- MTG Studio Help is not working
What do you mean. Is it disabled in the menu, is it giving some error message, or something else?

- Pre- or Release Cards have no prices (all cards from the PR Edition)
The prices come from external sources. I try to parse as much as possible of them but missing data for promo cards I cannot fix.

- Cards from Alternative Arts (AA) have no prices
Again a third-party content issue. If the sore is not selling them I cannot help.

Can send you my Collection file if you like it for test. Have nearly 5000 cards in it.
No need I know exactly which cards do not have prices assigned.
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Postby Thingil » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:00 pm

in the 1.8.3 beta i got this message when i cklick F1 for Help:

Die Navigation zu der Webseite wurde abgebrochen.

M?gliche Vorgehensweise:
Geben Sie die Adresse erneut ein.

in 1.8.2 it works fine.

If i can type in the prices manually for the release cards i can live with that
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Postby gaddlord » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:52 pm

Vote for those features! Show me what you need:

Manual update of prices:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title

add Assign Price screen for manual Price entry:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title

Allow setting default price rule:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title

Add Black Border prices integration:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title

Add thewizardscupboard.com prices:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title

Add Toad & Troll Prices integration:
http://mtgstudio.uservoice.com/forums/1 ... ?ref=title
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