Card prices - am I missing something??

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Card prices - am I missing something??

Postby Zebitty » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:34 pm

First up - let me just say how much I like MTG Studio - great software - keep up the good work!!!

That said, there are a few odd things that (might?) need fixing.

MTG Studio seems to give me wierd pricing info if the card has appeared in lots of different card sets.

An example:

An-Havva Inn only ever appeared in the Homelands expansion, and the pricing info that MTGStudio gives me appears to be an avergae of all the prices it can find online..

<cut and paste from MTG Studio>
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MAGIC TRADERS: Brand New $0,25 $0,38
HASTUR HOBBIES: HL $0,50
ABU GAMES: HL Signed $0,99 HL Good $0,22 HL Near Mint $0,34
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Total: $2.68
Divided by 6 different prices to give avg: $0.44666666666667
Value suggested by MTGStudio in the grid: $0.45

So it appears to be just averaging all the prices to arrive at a final value. Now this is 'ok' if the card has only appeared in one set, but take a look at this following example.

MTGSudio tells me (in the grid) that the ONE copy of UL Hurricane I own is worth $1650.47!! I checked a few places and its actually worth about $0.50 - $1 depending on where you look.

Once again, it seems the $1650.47 is the average value of this card over ALL the editions it has appeared in

<cut and paste from MTG Studio>
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MAGIC TRADERS: 10E $0,38 7E $0,69 6E $0,69 P2 $1,04 PT $0,81 5E $0,53 IA $0,46 4E $0,45 R $1,00 U $0,75 B $3,23 A $3,25
HASTUR HOBBIES: 7E $2,00 6E $2,00 P3 $8,00 IA $0,50 4E $0,50 R $1,00
ABU GAMES: 10E Good $3,24 Foil 10E Good $0,48 10E Near Mint $4,99 Foil 10E Near Mint $0,74 10E $0,55 DM Good $0,32 DM Near Mint $0,49 7E Foreign $6,39 Foil 7E Good $0,32 7E Good $5,19 Foil 7E Near Mint $0,44 7E Near Mint $7,99 Foil BR Poor $0,25 BR Good $0,64 BR Near Mint $0,99 6E Good $0,64 6E Near Mint $0,99 AT Poor $0,12 AT Good $0,32 AT Near Mint $0,49 P2 Good $0,97 P2 Fine $0,89 P2 Near Mint $1,49 PT Good $1,29 PT Near Mint $1,99 5E Poor $0,12 5E Good $0,32 5E Near Mint $0,44 IA Signed $0,99 IA Good $0,22 IA Near Mint $0,34 4E Good $0,16 4E Near Mint $0,22 R Poor $0,12 R Good $0,32 R Near Mint $0,49 U Good $0,64 U Near Mint $0,99 B Signed $7,99 B Good $3,99 B Near Mint $7,99 A Signed $11,99 A Good $3,99 A Near Mint $11,99 Good $3'249,99 Near Mint $4'999,99
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So a near mint Alpha Hurricane is worth a lot more and that's throwing out the 'avg' calculation. The problem is MTGstudio KNOWS that my copy of the card is from the UL set, and not Alpha - why is it bothering to include Alpha edition cards in its average price calculation?

Is there a checkbox or something somewhere in the options that makes MTG Studio only look at the pricing for the correct edition of the card? Am I missing something here?

Cheers,
Zebitty.
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Postby Schwanke » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:38 pm

Heh. I wondered where that bug came from lol.

Yeah, this was a known bug, you need to upgrade to the latest full beta which if you look for a post that says something to the effect of I think "latest beta" you'll see my instructions for getting everything installed.

If you cant find it let me know and ill figure out where it is.
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Postby Zebitty » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:33 pm

oh ok awesome - is it worth bothering with this beta since i get the feeling we're kinda close to the release of 1.8.3? or might it be a while?
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Postby Schwanke » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:50 pm

Well its been 'close' for a while now. And infact I asked how close a couple days ago and havnt gotten a response so I dont know whats going on. I hope Gad is ok but its also the holidays and I havnt been around when we have had one so he might have gone somewhere and just not told us.

I would upgrade. Very easy to do and you can play with it and get used to it. I cant imagine everything being different in the new version.

The prices thing was my biggest change I was waiting before I started my business since I didnt quite trust the old system and the new system looks so much awesomer.

The old system could theoretically work for a base line but then sites like Troll and Toad obliterate the baseline. (I figure they must buy by the 30 and 40 booster boxes at a time and tear through them. Hence why they can sell EVERYTHING so low. Always makes me wonder why anyone buys from anyone else. Almost even wondered if maybe you could make a business buying their singles and reselling them lol.)

So if you just want an estimate for your value I would say the current pricing system is fine. (Upgraded to the working beta of course.) But if you want to be competative and use the pricing for selling I would wait for the new system. Doesnt mean you cant enter them now though.

Hope some of that helps and of course all of that is just my opinion and I am very good at having bad opinions lol. :D
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Postby Thingil » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:10 am

Yeah, the beta works fine, but no prices of SoM are in there, until the new release. Unfortunately the communication skills of Gad are poor about updates and timelines....
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Postby gaddlord » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:45 am

Thingil wrote:Yeah, the beta works fine, but no prices of SoM are in there, until the new release. Unfortunately the communication skills of Gad are poor about updates and timelines....


There will be a new BETA 4 coming soon. I will import the SOM prices I can find.
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